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== Training Range and Magic from Safespots (or Melee with Halberd) ==
 
== Training Range and Magic from Safespots (or Melee with Halberd) ==
 
Players can easily train [[Ranged]] and [[Magic]] from safespots in the following places:
 
Players can easily train [[Ranged]] and [[Magic]] from safespots in the following places:
* [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon]], in the white snow spot between the [[Ice warrior]]s and the [[Hobgoblin]]s
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* [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon]], in the white snow spot between the [[ice warrior]]s and the [[hobgoblin]]s
 
* [[Barbarian Village]]
 
* [[Barbarian Village]]
 
* Behind [[sulphur]] vents in [[TzHaar City]] and [[TzHaar-Ket]] and [[TzHaar-Xil]]
 
* Behind [[sulphur]] vents in [[TzHaar City]] and [[TzHaar-Ket]] and [[TzHaar-Xil]]
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* [[Blue dragon]]s in any of their locations
 
* [[Blue dragon]]s in any of their locations
 
* [[Duck]] ponds in [[Lumbridge]]
 
* [[Duck]] ponds in [[Lumbridge]]
 
* [[Fire giant]]s in the [[Waterfall Dungeon]]
 
* [[Goblin]]s and [[giant spider]]s across the [[Lumbridge]] bridge wall
 
* [[Goblin]]s and [[giant spider]]s across the [[Lumbridge]] bridge wall
 
* [[Greater demon]]s, inside the ruins in the [[Demonic Ruins]]
 
* [[Greater demon]]s, inside the ruins in the [[Demonic Ruins]]
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* [[Lava dragon]]s, north of [[Chaos dwarf|chaos dwarfs]], circa 35-40 [[Wilderness]], over the peninsula
 
* [[Lava dragon]]s, north of [[Chaos dwarf|chaos dwarfs]], circa 35-40 [[Wilderness]], over the peninsula
 
* [[Lesser demon]]s in the [[Karamja Volcano Dungeon]], and behind the stalagmites in [[Taverley Dungeon]]
 
* [[Lesser demon]]s in the [[Karamja Volcano Dungeon]], and behind the stalagmites in [[Taverley Dungeon]]
 
* [[Lizardman shaman]]s in the [[Lizardman Settlement]], over the bridge leading to [[Xeric's Shrine]]
 
* [[Moss giant]]s on the island of [[Crandor]]
 
* [[Moss giant]]s on the island of [[Crandor]]
 
* [[Red dragon]]s in [[Brimhaven Dungeon]] from a spot in the middle of rocks on the northern wall
 
* [[Red dragon]]s in [[Brimhaven Dungeon]] from a spot in the middle of rocks on the northern wall
* [[Scorpion]]s, in the [[Al Kharid Mine]]
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* [[Scorpion]]s in the [[Al Kharid Mine]]
 
* [[Skeletal Wyvern]]s in the [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon|Asgarnia Ice Caves]] north of [[Mudskipper Point]] behind the cave entrance, which requires the monsters to be [[tolerant]] and requires 72 [[Slayer]] to kill
 
* [[Skeleton]]s near the [[Wilderness ditch]]
 
* [[Skeleton]]s near the [[Wilderness ditch]]
* [[Skeletal Wyvern]]s, in the [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon|Asgarnia Ice Caves]] north of [[Mudskipper point|Mudskipper Point]] behind the cave entrance, which requires the monsters to be tolerant and requires 72 [[Slayer]] to kill
 
 
* [[Tortoise]]s in the [[Tree Gnome Stronghold]]
 
* [[Tortoise]]s in the [[Tree Gnome Stronghold]]
 
* [[White Knights' Castle]] in [[Falador]]
 
* [[White Knights' Castle]] in [[Falador]]
* Behind certain fences such as Level 27 [[Minotaur]]s in [[Stronghold of Security]], first level - [[Mage]]s can also go behind fences without being retaliated. It is popular for lower levels to train in [[Combat Training Camp]] and behind the fences in [[Lumbridge]] cow fence.
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* Behind certain fences such as level 27 [[minotaur]]s in [[Stronghold of Security]], first level [[Mage]]s or [[Ranged|archers]] can also go behind fences without being retaliated. It is popular for lower levels to train in [[Combat Training Camp]] and behind the fences in [[Lumbridge]] [[cow]] fence.
* The [[Hill giant]]s in the [[Edgeville Dungeon]] - There is an estimated 106 safe spots in this area, along with about 16-18 double-kill safe spots (killing two giants at a time, usually with [[Ranged]]).
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* The [[hill giant]]s in the [[Edgeville Dungeon]] There is an estimated 106 safe spots in this area, along with about 16-18 double-kill safe spots (killing two giants at a time, usually with [[Ranged]]).
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* A player can trap a monster behind another to [[Ranged|range]] or [[mage]] it.
* [[Fire giant]]s in the [[Waterfall Dungeon]]
 
* [[Lizardman shaman]]s in the [[Lizardman Settlement]], over the bridge leading to [[Xeric's Shrine]]
 
   
 
== Other meaning ==
 
== Other meaning ==

Revision as of 01:11, 7 January 2017

Safe-spotting

A player taking advantage of a safe spot against a blue dragon underneath the Heroes' Guild.

A safe spot is a position from which a monster may be attacked using Ranged or Magic combat or using a halberd over an obstacle without retaliation. Sometimes, it is possible to safe-spot by attacking a monster one square out of its wander radius. Making attacks in this manner is often termed "safe spotting" or simply "safe-ing".

This works because NPCs, and some automatic player movements, always move directly toward their target and do not detour around obstacles if that would mean moving away. Larger monsters, such as dragons, may also end up snagged on a corner, even if it looks like they do have an almost direct path.

How "safe" a spot really is often depends on circumstances:

  • It is not possible to reliably use safe-spot tactics against other players, though a temporary advantage can be gained.
  • It is not possible against opponents, whether a player or an NPC/monster, who use a ranged or magic attack. Standing outside their patrol area will force them to retreat, luring the player from the safespot.
  • It can be difficult to reach a safe position against aggressive monsters. Some safe spots are only effective once the monsters have become tolerant, such as skeletal wyverns.
  • Monsters that retreat cannot be reliably safe-spotted; however, longbows and spells sometimes have a range long enough to hit the enemy at the farthest retreating location.
  • Common examples of safe spots include fences, rocks, elevated areas and even rivers.

Safe spotting in a PKing scenario

Because the concept of safe-spotting is a physical action (i.e. it is recreatable in a real-life scenario) and not a quirk of the game's programming, it is possible to safe spot against other players. However, because there is a human, not a computer, behind the screen of another player, safe spotting is nearly always a temporary tactic against humans. A computer lacks the awareness to react to safe spotting whereas humans will be able to recognise that they are being safe spotted and run away or move around the obstacle.

Safe spotting against other players is also limited by the practicality of it. Most monsters, again, due to their computer control, lack the ability to stop a player from doing it. A human would see what the other player is doing and stop them, all the while forcing the safe spotter to waste time and food. Also, safe spotting, in some cases, could be dangerous as counter-safe spotting is possible (once again the adaptability of humans comes to the forefront). This reverse engineering, along with adequate protection against the original safe spotter's form of damage (Protect from Magic versus a Magic-using safe spotter) can be extremely effective.

But in some cases, safe spotting has serious advantages. The few free hits a ranger can get on a player using Melee before they can close in to attack can make the difference between victory and defeat. Indeed, when a fight comes down to a battle of attrition (when whoever has more food wins), those two or three hits can be instrumental. This process can also be called "far casting".

This tactic's implications are, of course, somewhat obvious, and as such, there is a small, programmed in, defence against a safe spotter in the Wilderness or anywhere. When a warrior is retaliating against (not attacking), a distanced attack, he/she will, during their headlong charge, apparently make their first hit on their enemy 3-4 squares before they are in melee range. This is because of the way the game is programmed—a running character is treated by the server as a few squares ahead of where they appear to be.

Edge of range

Another form of safe-spotting is the edge of an NPC or monster's patrol range, as most, if not all, NPCs and monsters will not pursue beyond a certain area. This is generally unreliable though, because they will often wander off, causing you to move closer in order to continue hitting the NPC/monster, after which it will simply come back to attack you. However, by using the longrange style on a bow, you can keep shooting at the NPC/monster. Also, other monsters may attack you while you are out of range of the monster/NPC you are ranging. If you are using Ranged, your arrows will be strewn all over the place; an Ava's accumulator is recommended to prevent having to pick them up. In some rare cases, it is possible to kill a monster with close-up Melee without being attacked by them, although this is most likely a glitch.

The best way to do this would be to find the northern edge of their roaming range; this way when you attack them, all they do is walk around instead of backing away from you. It is unknown why they continue to walk when attacked this way. This works it's best and most noticeably at the green dragons located in the Wilderness.

Training Range and Magic from Safespots (or Melee with Halberd)

Players can easily train Ranged and Magic from safespots in the following places:

Other meaning

Safe spot can also mean an area or spot in an otherwise dangerous area where other monsters cannot attack you (not meaning you can attack them safely). This meaning of safe spots are often used to complete certain quests. For example, in the Temple of Light, safe spots are considered areas where there are no Shadows nearby.