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[[File:Safe-spotting.gif|thumb|A player taking advantage of a safe spot against a [[blue dragon]] underneath the [[Heroes' Guild]].]]
 
[[File:Safe-spotting.gif|thumb|A player taking advantage of a safe spot against a [[blue dragon]] underneath the [[Heroes' Guild]].]]
A '''safe spot''' is a position from which a [[monster]] may be attacked using [[Ranged]] or [[Magic]] [[combat]] or using a [[halberd]] over an obstacle without [[retaliation]]. Sometimes, it is possible to safe-spot by attacking a monster one square out of its [[wander radius]]. Making attacks in this manner is often termed "'''safe spotting'''".
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A '''safe spot''', sometimes contracted to '''safespot''', is a position from which a [[monster]] may be attacked using [[Ranged]] or [[Magic]] [[combat]] or using a [[halberd]] over an obstacle without [[retaliation]]. Sometimes, it is possible to safe-spot by attacking a monster one square out of its [[wander radius]]. Making attacks in this manner is often termed "'''safe spotting'''".
   
 
This works because [[Non-player character|NPCs]], and some automatic [[player]] movements, always move directly toward their target and do not detour around obstacles if that would mean moving away. Larger monsters, such as [[dragons]], may also end up snagged on a corner, even if it looks like they do have an almost direct path.
 
This works because [[Non-player character|NPCs]], and some automatic [[player]] movements, always move directly toward their target and do not detour around obstacles if that would mean moving away. Larger monsters, such as [[dragons]], may also end up snagged on a corner, even if it looks like they do have an almost direct path.
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How "safe" a spot really is often depends on circumstances:
 
How "safe" a spot really is often depends on circumstances:
 
* It is not possible to reliably use safe-spot tactics against other players, though a temporary advantage can be gained.
 
* It is not possible to reliably use safe-spot tactics against other players, though a temporary advantage can be gained.
* It is typically not possible against opponents who use a ranged or magic attack. Standing outside their patrol area will force them to retreat, luring the player from the safespot. Some opponents can be safespotted when the player's weapon has longer range than the opponent's attack.
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* It is typically not possible against opponents who use a ranged or magic attack. Standing outside their patrol area will force them to retreat, luring the player from the safe spot. Some opponents can be safe-spotted when the player's weapon has longer range than the opponent's attack.
 
* It can be difficult to reach a safe position against [[aggressiveness|aggressive]] monsters. Some safe spots are only effective once the monsters have become [[tolerant]], such as [[skeletal wyvern]]s.
 
* It can be difficult to reach a safe position against [[aggressiveness|aggressive]] monsters. Some safe spots are only effective once the monsters have become [[tolerant]], such as [[skeletal wyvern]]s.
 
* Monsters that retreat cannot be reliably safe-spotted; however, [[longbow]]s and [[spells]] sometimes have a range long enough to hit the enemy at the farthest retreating location.
 
* Monsters that retreat cannot be reliably safe-spotted; however, [[longbow]]s and [[spells]] sometimes have a range long enough to hit the enemy at the farthest retreating location.
 
* Common examples of safe spots include fences, rocks, elevated areas and even rivers.
 
* Common examples of safe spots include fences, rocks, elevated areas and even rivers.
   
==Notable safespots==
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==Notable safe spots==
These are widely known safespots that can significantly impact the longevity of killing monsters in a trip or activity. These safespots are almost always used in their scenario to maximise conservation of supplies.
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These are widely known safe spots that can significantly impact the longevity of killing monsters in a trip or activity. These safe spots are almost always used in their scenario to maximise conservation of supplies.
   
 
===Dagannoth Kings===
 
===Dagannoth Kings===
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===Fight Caves===
 
===Fight Caves===
There are numerous obstacles that can be used to block a monster's attacking range ([[Ket-Zek]]/[[Tok-Xil]]) or make them stuck and safespottable ([[Yt-MejKot]]/[[Tz-Kek]]). This is imperative in waves where the player is facing multiple attack styles at once, since they cannot pray from all of them.
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There are numerous obstacles that can be used to block a monster's attacking range ([[Ket-Zek]]/[[Tok-Xil]]) or make them stuck ([[Yt-MejKot]]/[[Tz-Kek]]). This is imperative in waves where the player is facing multiple attack styles at once, since they cannot pray from all of them.
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===Callisto/Venenatis/Vet'ion===
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These three [[Wilderness]] [[boss]]es can be lured in such a way that they will become stuck and able to be attacked by the player without them retaliating back. This is taking advantage of [[wander radius]] mechanics, and players who make use of it can manage multiple kills per trip.
   
 
==Safe-spotting in a PKing scenario==
 
==Safe-spotting in a PKing scenario==
Because the concept of safe-spotting is a physical action (i.e. it is recreatable in a real-life scenario) and not a [[glitch|quirk]] of the game's programming, it is possible to safe-spot against other players. However, because there is a [[Player|human]], not a computer, behind the screen of another player, safe-spotting is nearly always a temporary tactic against humans. A computer lacks the awareness to react to safe-spotting whereas humans will be able to recognise that they are being safe-spotted and [[run]] away or move around the obstacle.
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Because the concept of safe-spotting is a physical action and not a [[glitch|quirk]] of the game's programming, it is possible to safe-spot against other players. However, because there is a [[Player|human]], not a computer, behind the screen of another player, safe-spotting is nearly always a temporary tactic against humans. A computer lacks the awareness to react to safe-spotting whereas humans will be able to recognise that they are being safe-spotted and [[run]] away or move around the obstacle.
   
 
Safe-spotting against other players is also limited by the practicality of it. Most [[monster]]s, again, due to their computer control, lack the ability to stop a player from doing it. A human would see what the other player is doing and stop them, all the while forcing the safe-spotter to waste time and food. Also, safe-spotting, in some cases, could be dangerous as counter-safe spotting is possible (once again the adaptability of humans comes to the forefront). This reverse engineering, along with adequate protection against the original safe-spotter's form of damage ([[Protect from Magic]] versus a [[Magic]]-using safe spotter) can be extremely effective.
 
Safe-spotting against other players is also limited by the practicality of it. Most [[monster]]s, again, due to their computer control, lack the ability to stop a player from doing it. A human would see what the other player is doing and stop them, all the while forcing the safe-spotter to waste time and food. Also, safe-spotting, in some cases, could be dangerous as counter-safe spotting is possible (once again the adaptability of humans comes to the forefront). This reverse engineering, along with adequate protection against the original safe-spotter's form of damage ([[Protect from Magic]] versus a [[Magic]]-using safe spotter) can be extremely effective.
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==Edge of range==
 
==Edge of range==
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{{main|Wander radius}}
Another form of safe-spotting is the edge of an [[NPC]] or [[monster]]'s [[patrol range]], as most, if not all, NPCs and monsters will not pursue beyond a certain area. This is generally unreliable though, because they will often wander off, causing you to move closer in order to continue hitting the NPC/monster, after which it will simply come back to attack you. However, by using the [[longrange]] style on a [[bow]], you can keep shooting at the NPC/monster. Also, other monsters may attack you while you are out of range of the monster/NPC you are ranging. If you are using [[Ranged]], your [[arrows]] will be strewn all over the place; an [[Ava's accumulator]] is recommended to prevent having to pick them up. In some rare cases, it is possible to kill a monster with close-up [[Melee]] without being attacked by them, although this is most likely a [[glitch]].
 
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Another form of safe-spotting is the edge of a [[monster]]'s patrol range, as most monsters will not pursue beyond a certain area. This is generally unreliable though, because they will often wander off, causing the player to move closer in order to continue attacking the monster, after which it will simply come back to attack them.
   
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==Obstruction by another monster or player==
The best way to do this would be to find the northern edge of their roaming range; this way when you attack them, all they do is walk around instead of backing away from you. It is unknown why they continue to walk when attacked this way. This works it's best and most noticeably at the [[green dragon]]s located in the [[Wilderness]].
 
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Most monsters will not be able to pass through another monster or player. This can be exploited in order to prevent melee-using monsters from attacking a player. A common example of this is getting the attention of (but not kill) a [[bat]] or [[giant rat]] found near [[Damis]] during [[Desert Treasure]]. Unlike the other monsters in the dungeon, the bat and giant rat do not allow other monsters to pass through them, allowing the player to stand behind the bat or giant rat with the aggressive monsters stuck behind them, being able to attack Damis with Ranged or Magic safely. However, most high level bosses that only use Melee can walk through players and other monsters, such as in [[God Wars Dungeon]], making this method effective generally only for lower leveled monsters.
   
==Training Ranged and Magic from Safespots (or Melee with Halberd)==
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==Training Ranged and Magic from safe spots (or Melee with Halberd)==
Players can easily train [[Ranged]] and [[Magic]] from safespots in the following places:
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Players can easily train [[Ranged]] and [[Magic]] from safe spots in the following places:
 
* [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon]], in the white snow spot between the [[ice warrior]]s and the [[hobgoblin]]s
 
* [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon]], in the white snow spot between the [[ice warrior]]s and the [[hobgoblin]]s
 
* [[Barbarian Village]]
 
* [[Barbarian Village]]
 
* Behind [[sulphur]] vents in [[Mor Ul Rek]] and [[TzHaar-Ket]] and [[TzHaar-Xil]]
 
* Behind [[sulphur]] vents in [[Mor Ul Rek]] and [[TzHaar-Ket]] and [[TzHaar-Xil]]
* [[Black demon]]s, at [[Taverley Dungeon]] behind the stalagmites
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* [[Black demon]]s, at [[Taverley Dungeon]] or [[Edgeville Dungeon]] behind the stalagmites
* [[Black demon]]s, at the [[Edgeville Dungeon]] behind the stalagmites
 
 
* [[Bloodveld]], at the [[Slayer Tower]]
 
* [[Bloodveld]], at the [[Slayer Tower]]
 
* [[Blue dragon]]s in any of their locations
 
* [[Blue dragon]]s in any of their locations
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* [[Scorpion]]s in the [[Al Kharid Mine]]
 
* [[Scorpion]]s in the [[Al Kharid Mine]]
 
* [[Skeletal Wyvern]]s in the [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon|Asgarnia Ice Caves]] north of [[Mudskipper Point]] behind the cave entrance, which requires the monsters to be [[tolerant]] and requires 72 [[Slayer]] to kill
 
* [[Skeletal Wyvern]]s in the [[Asgarnia Ice Dungeon|Asgarnia Ice Caves]] north of [[Mudskipper Point]] behind the cave entrance, which requires the monsters to be [[tolerant]] and requires 72 [[Slayer]] to kill
* [[Skeleton]]s near the [[Wilderness ditch]]
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* [[Skeleton]]s near the [[Wilderness ditch]] and [[Guard|Guards]] from the other side of the ditch.
 
* [[Tortoise]]s in the [[Tree Gnome Stronghold]]
 
* [[Tortoise]]s in the [[Tree Gnome Stronghold]]
 
* [[White Knights' Castle]] in [[Falador]]
 
* [[White Knights' Castle]] in [[Falador]]

Latest revision as of 10:02, 8 June 2019

Safe-spotting

A player taking advantage of a safe spot against a blue dragon underneath the Heroes' Guild.

A safe spot, sometimes contracted to safespot, is a position from which a monster may be attacked using Ranged or Magic combat or using a halberd over an obstacle without retaliation. Sometimes, it is possible to safe-spot by attacking a monster one square out of its wander radius. Making attacks in this manner is often termed "safe spotting".

This works because NPCs, and some automatic player movements, always move directly toward their target and do not detour around obstacles if that would mean moving away. Larger monsters, such as dragons, may also end up snagged on a corner, even if it looks like they do have an almost direct path.

How "safe" a spot really is often depends on circumstances:

  • It is not possible to reliably use safe-spot tactics against other players, though a temporary advantage can be gained.
  • It is typically not possible against opponents who use a ranged or magic attack. Standing outside their patrol area will force them to retreat, luring the player from the safe spot. Some opponents can be safe-spotted when the player's weapon has longer range than the opponent's attack.
  • It can be difficult to reach a safe position against aggressive monsters. Some safe spots are only effective once the monsters have become tolerant, such as skeletal wyverns.
  • Monsters that retreat cannot be reliably safe-spotted; however, longbows and spells sometimes have a range long enough to hit the enemy at the farthest retreating location.
  • Common examples of safe spots include fences, rocks, elevated areas and even rivers.

Notable safe spots

These are widely known safe spots that can significantly impact the longevity of killing monsters in a trip or activity. These safe spots are almost always used in their scenario to maximise conservation of supplies.

Dagannoth Kings

Magic users who target Dagannoth Rex will lure him to the southern side of the lair and then move west or east so he is stuck on either edge, where the mager can kill him without worrying about Rex attacking back. If done correctly, Prime and Supreme will not wander near the mager; the mager will usually only be attacked by Spinolyps.

Fight Caves

There are numerous obstacles that can be used to block a monster's attacking range (Ket-Zek/Tok-Xil) or make them stuck (Yt-MejKot/Tz-Kek). This is imperative in waves where the player is facing multiple attack styles at once, since they cannot pray from all of them.

Callisto/Venenatis/Vet'ion

These three Wilderness bosses can be lured in such a way that they will become stuck and able to be attacked by the player without them retaliating back. This is taking advantage of wander radius mechanics, and players who make use of it can manage multiple kills per trip.

Safe-spotting in a PKing scenario

Because the concept of safe-spotting is a physical action and not a quirk of the game's programming, it is possible to safe-spot against other players. However, because there is a human, not a computer, behind the screen of another player, safe-spotting is nearly always a temporary tactic against humans. A computer lacks the awareness to react to safe-spotting whereas humans will be able to recognise that they are being safe-spotted and run away or move around the obstacle.

Safe-spotting against other players is also limited by the practicality of it. Most monsters, again, due to their computer control, lack the ability to stop a player from doing it. A human would see what the other player is doing and stop them, all the while forcing the safe-spotter to waste time and food. Also, safe-spotting, in some cases, could be dangerous as counter-safe spotting is possible (once again the adaptability of humans comes to the forefront). This reverse engineering, along with adequate protection against the original safe-spotter's form of damage (Protect from Magic versus a Magic-using safe spotter) can be extremely effective.

But in some cases, safe spotting has serious advantages. The few free hits a ranger can get on a player using Melee before they can close in to attack can make the difference between victory and defeat. Indeed, when a fight comes down to a battle of attrition (when whoever has more food wins), those two or three hits can be instrumental. This process can also be called "far casting".

This tactic's implications are, of course, somewhat obvious, and as such, there is a small, programmed in, defence against a safe spotter in the Wilderness or anywhere. When a warrior is retaliating against (not attacking), a distanced attack, he/she will, during their headlong charge, apparently make their first hit on their enemy 3-4 squares before they are in melee range. This is because of the way the game is programmed—a running character is treated by the server as a few squares ahead of where they appear to be.

Edge of range

Main article: Wander radius

Another form of safe-spotting is the edge of a monster's patrol range, as most monsters will not pursue beyond a certain area. This is generally unreliable though, because they will often wander off, causing the player to move closer in order to continue attacking the monster, after which it will simply come back to attack them.

Obstruction by another monster or player

Most monsters will not be able to pass through another monster or player. This can be exploited in order to prevent melee-using monsters from attacking a player. A common example of this is getting the attention of (but not kill) a bat or giant rat found near Damis during Desert Treasure. Unlike the other monsters in the dungeon, the bat and giant rat do not allow other monsters to pass through them, allowing the player to stand behind the bat or giant rat with the aggressive monsters stuck behind them, being able to attack Damis with Ranged or Magic safely. However, most high level bosses that only use Melee can walk through players and other monsters, such as in God Wars Dungeon, making this method effective generally only for lower leveled monsters.

Training Ranged and Magic from safe spots (or Melee with Halberd)

Players can easily train Ranged and Magic from safe spots in the following places:

Other meaning

Safe spot can also mean an area or spot in an otherwise dangerous area where other monsters cannot attack you (not meaning you can attack them safely). This meaning of safe spots are often used to complete certain quests. For example, in the Temple of Light, safe spots are considered areas where there are no Shadows nearby.

See also